Old Dark Patches
To The Corner Of My Room,
Is It Condensation?

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The condensation problem overview

Since the 1970's our client has been living in this property as a tenant and ever since he had known it there had been mouldy patches in several of the rooms, although he had complained on and off to his landlord and various things had happened over the years (as we will explain), but nothing would solve the damp patch problem. It was only with the arrival of his new wife that they really became a problem! This ultimately resulted in us being called in to give independent advice.

The house with condensation

The house was built circa 1914 (or that is the date on the hopper head). It is a semi-detached property with surrounding gardens. It is constructed as follows:

1. A rendered chimney

2. A pitched hipped roof clad in concrete tiles

3. A painted render wall

4. Modern plastic windows (with trickle vents)

5. A suspended timber ground floor

6. Joists and floorboards to the first floor

7. Rear extension, which has a concrete floor, a flat roof and is built in brick

Mould to the render a close up look

First of all we examined the outside of the property, which showed within the render several things. There was mould to the rear left hand corner at the bottom of the single storey extension and there was mould just above the single storey extension in the main building, where it met the single storey extension. Other than that the render looked in reasonable condition apart from some hairline cracking. Whilst hairline cracking can allow dampness into a property, in this case it was surface level and we believe was caused by the plastic double glazed windows being inserted into the property and whilst the render on the surface moved the plastic windows did not and this caused the cracking. This is why you should have windows appropriate for the buildings age and type and construction, not to mention the aesthetics.

So, considering the mouldy render in the two areas identified we then looked for leaking gutters, downpipes and soil and vent pipes in the area. Whilst we suspected there was some leakage in these areas, as we could see rusting and some cracking to the gutters and downpipes, we didn't think this was sufficient to cause the mould, but we did note that the flat roofed single storey extension had an edge of the flat roof that if it allowed rainwater over would come down the face of the side where the mould was. This was impossible to see at ground level, although in theory it shouldn't have been as the guttering is to the adjacent side and the floor should have been away from this area. Nevertheless, we used a ladder to get up onto the roof and checked. We found that the flat roof did have a reasonable fall on it and also there was no damage or major deterioration to the flat roof that would cause such a problem.

The inside inspection of the property

Dampness at ground floor level that is causing the mould was in the ground floor bathroom and at first floor level was in the rear bedroom.

Ground floor bathroom dampness

As this area was on the ground floor we did a check for rising damp and did find damp to the side wall but not to the rear wall (the rest of the walls were internal and they didn't have any signs of dampness). Therefore rising damp could definitely be a cause of the dampness, or a contributory factor.

To the exterior of the property on the extension we noted two vents; one at high level and one at low level. These would be sufficient for most bathrooms of this size, however, when we went inside to inspect these areas we found that the low level vent had been covered over by a radiator (not good planning) and meant that the amount of ventilation in the room was not sufficient. This therefore is an additional contributory factor to the mould.

Ventilation to the windows

Another important area to look with regard to ventilation is the windows to see how large the opening panels of the windows are, or if they are fixed windows. In this case the windows were casement windows with half of them being able to open. This doesn't mean that people open them but it does mean that option is available. We also noted that the windows have a trickle vent, which means that, providing the trickle vent is open, there will always be a flow of air in the area.

Trickle Vents Defined

Small vents to the windows to allow air movement inside the property to stop a build up of fumes or humidity.

Examining the mould

The mould at the time of our inspection, which was in the summer, was relatively minor, but during our question and answer session with the occupier they advised that it was far worse during some periods of the year and it was relatively minor at present.

Interestingly, the actual examination of the mould is not about how black the mould was but was more about its location and height.

So, is this condensation, penetrating damp or something else?

We would say that part of it is rising damp but the majority of it is condensation. One point we haven't mentioned is the surface finish. In this instance the surface finish was not a plaster but a hard cement render with a plastic based paint upon it. These tend to sweat and contribute towards condensation.

What is the remedy?

In this instance the remedy is to add more ventilation, both in the form of an air vent, which vents naturally, and in the form of a mechanical vent. We also needed to educate/advise the owners to open their windows more frequently, particularly when taking a long shower or bath and if any clothes need drying on wet days to use other suitable areas, rather than the ground floor bathroom.

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